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"505Turbeaux" (505turbeaux)
02/04/2015 at 11:20 • Filed to: None

Well, my property taxes are coming right up. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! just got arrested for paying $600 property tax in dollar bills, and probably being a dick, but I think he was in his legal right here. You can pay in cash. I have my $6200 nut to the city waiting in my bank account, I am considering being a dick too since they are going up again for a "rain tax" which will be another couple hundo. Livid. Nickels and a boom box playing "I got 5 on it"?

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DISCUSSION (37)

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:25

Do it. It's peaceable protest against an immoral government action.

Property tax is extortion.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:25

It doesn't matter if there's some statute in place about undue burden handling money: $600 is like five minutes *by hand*. It's an FU that is *not* impossible to process, which would be the only reasonable grounds to gripe.

505Turbeaux > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig
02/04/2015 at 11:25

it is especially on a house I bought for $162K in 2008!

deekster_caddy > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:26

Woah. Not just in dollar bills, but in bills folded so tightly it took them 6 minutes to unfold each bill? I'd call that disruptive. If his goal was to be an asshole, he succeeded.

Tstanisch > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:26

You pay $6200 in property tax on a 162k house? Where the hell do you live? And I thought Ozaukee County Wisconsin was high!!

505Turbeaux > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
02/04/2015 at 11:26

even if they were crumpled to shit...6 minutes per bill, were they ironing them out?

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:27

Paying in $1 bills = Not a dick move, just peaceable protest

Paying in $1 bills that have been folded by origami masters = Dick move

505Turbeaux > Tstanisch
02/04/2015 at 11:28

well, I bought in foreclosure and rebuilt the place with my own 2 hands (and some help). Worth almost 400 now, but I am not selling it till my kids are in college, (or not in college, but 18 and out of high school)

PS9 > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:30

The link says he was arrested for 'refusing to leave the county courthouse', not for paying in $1 bills. His being asked to leave does stem from paying in such a way as to make each bill difficult to count, but it doesn't say he was asked to take to money with him and leave the tax charge outstanding. Trying to escape the deputy was also a bad move on top of a bad move.

You occasionally hear stories about people paying this or that entity in ways that make life harder for the recipient, but the entities in question usually aren't a branch of government with quick access to law enforcement. There might be more to the story than presented here, but it's hard for me to feel sorry for someone making one poor desicion after another. He clearly had the money; it was probably better for him to drop the currency off at the tax collector and move on with his life.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:34

If you have to pay annually for the right to own something, you don't really own it.

Leon711 > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:35

Kinja'd!!!

Could have sped the ironing up with a Corby trouser press.

505Turbeaux > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig
02/04/2015 at 11:36

yeah, something I literally own, not a fucking bank. But the city can damn sure take my house and land if I dont pay the taxes. my property straddles the town line too, if mine was right over the line it would be 1/3 of that, with better schools and trash collection (we pay 10$ for 5 bags to get them picked up), roads that don't eat your car, etc. Oh now I am riled

505Turbeaux > Leon711
02/04/2015 at 11:36

WANT

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > PS9
02/04/2015 at 11:38

He was clearly very pissed off. Pissed off people doubt the motives of others. I presume the reason he stuck around was to *make sure* that the money was entered and did not then suffer an "oopsie" or have a couple of bills conveniently go missing. Did that then give them a cromulent mechanism to get him arrested? Possibly. I'd assume he also probably didn't think the cop arresting him was genuine - after all, he's not loitering, he's there as regards official business, right? It's fun sometimes to get in the head of somebody like this.

Leon711 > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:39

£109 or $166 + shipping sir!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:42

That is NJ levels of property tax, holy shit.

Leon711 > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:44

available in many colours and finishes.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:45

You should have your property surveyed, if any part of it is over the county line, move your entrance to that spot. It's worth a try if you can get some tax relief.

505Turbeaux > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/04/2015 at 11:47

yeah I have tried 6 different ways, I would have to build a damn road or buy my neighbor out

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:50

I bet the rental of a bulldozer and roller is probably less than $4k... Even if you have to drop $6k building a dirt road, you'd see that and then some on the back end. This is all depending on if you have the cash on hand. Also I'm not a lawyer so I'd suggest checking with a local one to see if you could legally get away with it.

505Turbeaux > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/04/2015 at 11:52

I did, the way the property lies I would have to exit through my neighbors yard, because the boundry is on protected land. Def been down that road with a good legal team. No dice

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:56

Fuck. Buy your neighbor out, turn it into a rental property and build a driveway. Fuck that town.

WesBarton89 - The Way to Santa Fe > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 11:56

That was good protest on the guy.

But man, $6200? My property taxes are about $1200ish per year, in addition to homeowner's insurance being approximately the same. I pay $200 a month into an escrow account so that it's all paid on time. But, reading your posts, you paid a whole lot more for your house. I just bought my house over the summer, and it'll be paid off within 5 years, and I'm paying about $35k with no interest. I hope for what you're (unfairly, since you own your house outright) paying, that you have a nice house with plenty of room. I hate having to pay tax, I really do. I pay taxes on every paycheck that I earn. I pay taxes on my material items. I pay taxes on food. We all do, for the most part. And then they expect us to pay taxes on something that already belongs to us. Especially something that we have paid a lot of money for, to work towards paying off. Paying off a house generally takes anywhere from 10-30 years for the average person, yet you still have that property tax shadow hanging over your head, and should something happen, that you can't pay it, your own property is stolen right out from under you.

I'm sorry, I understand taxes are a necessary evil, but to make you pay them on something that rightfully belongs to you, that you worked your butt off for, that just does not fly with me.

505Turbeaux > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/04/2015 at 11:59

I wish, the old lady wont sell, and for some reason, now hates me. Even though I took the shithole next door (that she used to live in, her dead husbands gramma built the place) and made it nice. Her kids fucking suck and they are all getting their say in because they are "looking out for their mom" even though they come visit her one every other year. I used to bring her fresh eggs!

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 12:04

Sucks man, people are assholes.

Sir Halffast > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig
02/04/2015 at 12:12

Buddy, I love you, but that's not how taxes work. Even libertarians understand that. Hop off the soapbox.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 12:12

WTF is a rain tax?

505Turbeaux > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much
02/04/2015 at 12:16

they are separating the storm drain from the septic in the city (septic that I am not a part of of course, I own my shit:) ) so they are calculating the size of your roof and driveway to assess the tax based on how much rain your place sheds into the storm drains, sorta because my rain runs onto my grass.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 12:26

Fellow "homeowner" with ridiculous property taxes here as well.....

The older I get, the more I realize the fact that one does not truly own anything considered tangible property.

505Turbeaux > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me!
02/04/2015 at 12:32

truth

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Sir Halffast
02/04/2015 at 12:37

It's not a new debate. Jefferson and Franklin considered the right to property a social contract, rather than an inherent right, which is why "life, liberty, and the pursuit of property" never made it to the final draft of the Declaration.

I am of a different opinion.

Sir Halffast > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig
02/04/2015 at 12:47

Of all taxes to be upset about, property tax makes the least sense. It's equitable, as everyone pays according to the value of real property and land that they own, and it's opt-in. If you don't like it, you don't purchase land, and you don't pay. Ever. Plus, in most jurisdictions, it's the primary source of funding for education and other public goods like police and fire, thus it actively supports the health of society. For an example of what happens when no one owns property and therefore doesn't pay property tax, look at the funding problems for police and education in Detroit. Some states get by without it, but they have to make up other ways, and those other ways are often LESS fair, like higher income taxes and higher sales taxes (which are highly regressive). So ultimately, yes they're annoying (I know, I pay my own 4k/year), but very necessary.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Sir Halffast
02/04/2015 at 12:55

Well, I'm not talking about where they're going . I'm talking about where they come from , and if the ends justify the means. It's this general idea that property ownership is a privilege granted to us by the government. And it's not just for land. Here in MO we have to pay property taxes on our cars, and we're supposed to report other valuables, too, though I don't think many people do.

CalzoneGolem > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 14:04

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 14:10

That is a horseshit way to do things. They don't believe in selling bonds or passing temporary millages? I'd pay them in dollar bills. Just walk in and make it rain dollar bills. What's the worst that could happen?

Kinja'd!!!

505Turbeaux > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much
02/04/2015 at 14:11

hahahaha I think they wore out their bond quota in the last elections for other bullshit things

ly2v8-Brian > 505Turbeaux
02/04/2015 at 19:26

Pay in pennies